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91. Vinay 90. Siddharth Dasgupta January 6, 1999 sdg@wag.caltech.edu I have a SGI O2 workstation (running Unix) and a DELL 233MHz Pentium II PC (running Windows95) at home, side by side. The mean time between failures is significantly higher for Win95 than for Unix. At work, we have 56 Unix boxes, 4 Win95/WinNT boxes, and 3 Linux boxes, in a heterogeneous computing cluster. The system manager has the most trouble with Winxx OS, and practically none with the Unix or Linux systems. When IE4 first became available, I downloaded it from MS' website. Unknowingly, I said YES to the active desktop integration. That crashed my DELL at home. After paying $40 to MS helpline, and spending the better part of one Saturday afternoon with rather poor technical help, I finally had to reformat my hard drive from scratch, with help from DELL's technical hotline. When we bought Office97, we could not do a clean install while keeping Office95 (there were some users who wanted O95 kept around). In some instances, Office97 programs did patently wrong IO (like writing RTF files from PowerPoint97 when asked to write PP95 files), in other cases (PowerPoint97 to webpage) whimsically writing some file extensions in upper case, some in lower case (for .gif files). My overall impression is that MS is a "good enough" company - as soon as the software is "good enough" they put it out, robustness and customer convenience be damned. Given this arrogance, I bet Linux will slowly win over Windows NT. 89. Biswapesh Chatterjee January 6, 1999 biswapesh.chattopadhyay@bt.com Sorry, one more point. I think the forum in http://www.nwfusion.com has covered more or less all the points so this forum can be nothing more than a repetition (The nwfusion forum already has over 400 comments with lots of useful information). 88. Craig Gibbons January 6, 1999 gibbons@iafrica.com Choose Linux, why not. All the tools are there. The worlds most widely used, tried and tested, fully supported web server (Apache), development tools, scripting languages (Perl being most notable). It is reliable, scalable and best of all (unlike other OS's - you know the one I mean) stable :-). Apart from all that, you get the whole bundle free. Seems too me like there is no *choice* to be made 87. Geoff. Dash January 6, 1999 geoffd@zeta.org.au To correct Meena Ganesh's correction, NT is the second fastest growing server OS behind Unix. (The survey didn't distinguish between Linux and Unix.) I doubt it will eclipse Unix unless Windows 2000 can deliver VASTLY improved reliability and maintainability. An ISP considering NT would do well to consider Microsoft's own Hotmail. Hotmail runs Solaris. An NT server set up by a Microsoft providing MSCE failed when subjected to one tenth the load their Sun servers routinely carry. If Microsoft can't make NT perform, what chance do you have? 86. Tarun Tandon 85. Biswapesh Chatterjee January 6, 1999 biswapesh.chattopadhyay@bt.com Point 1 : http://www.unix-vs-nt.org. One go through the article should make it clear to any person why UNIX (esp. freeware UNIces like FreeBSD and Linux) are best, esp. for ISPs. Point 2 : http://www.netcraft.com. This survey should convince those who are still skeptical. 84. Kevin Lyda January 6, 1999 kevin@suberic.net Windows NT crashes. A lot. That's my experience on a range of hardware, service packs, companies and continents. It crashes here in Ireland, it crashed on me in the US, it crashed when it was only forwarding mail for a single user, it crashed when it was under heavy load. It just recently experienced it's first worm - Unix has been there, done that for a decade. ISP's should care about uptime, scalability and security. Unix vendors do OK, with Linux and the *BSD's doing astounding on 2 and OK on scalability. Microsoft is only now thinking of security, and even then it's ill-conceived. Uptime's of a month, nevermind years, are rare. And scalability in my experience is beyond sub-par. The idea that ISP's even consider NT is enough to make me consider their commitment to customer service, reliability, and competence suspect. 83. Christian Schaller January 6, 1999 christian.schaller@technologist.com Linux is the OS of the future, it has a development model that was born with the net and will prosper with the net. ISP's all over the world are choosing to go with Linux due to its stability, price and professional tools for network supervision and management. India's ISP's should do the same, both Unix and NT belong to the previous paradigm, Linux to the next. 82. Manish January 6, 1999 mpk@hotmail.com Windows NT is the safest bet as of course it will be compatible with all the MS future products. 81. Glenn Bautista January 6, 1999 glenn2@compass.com.ph If this Meena Ganesh or something is telling you that any sensible company is using NT for any of their mission critical operations (and succeeding) then she is the one who's lying. You see I've been Linux for a long long time now, and I have never ever ever seen it crash.... and I have used NT too, and without that much of a load, it crashes. I mean, even if you don't run any apps on it, just leave it on, it'll crash eventually, if not the same day, then within the next 3 days it'll crash... heck.. did you see this demonstration made by Bill gates at Comdex or somesuch.. The thing even crashed on him in the show!.. I pretty much think that even if NT wins a LOT of clients for the moment, they will eventually know that they erred in that decision, and will probably change back to Unix... so its really Linux vs. Unix... and I'd bet that Linux would win 'cuase its cheaper... and is as fast and reliable if not more so than any commercial Unix platform. Just my 2 cents :) 80. Biren January 6, 1999 biren@cs.utexas.edu UNIX 79. Keky January 6, 1999 keky@goodnet.com NT. New Technology. Not Old Technology, Not Rediscovered Technology, Not Seasoned Technology. As some one who started with Multics, and then on to Unix and now to NT, I say I am for NT 4.0, 5.0 and 6.0. Prejudiced, yes. NT is keeping my MS stocks healthy; it will contribute to my children's happiness and joy. Linux, It is about its author's 'Free Spirit' and his capability; it is like the drug 'ACID' Timothy Leary said WOW!, but when its effect died out Late Timothy Leary went to coding VB on a NT; I think there is still hope for Linux's author and his Linux clan in NT. About UNIX, it is like the heavy weight champion Larry Holmes, saying I am still here, fight me I am only 30 and promoters like Don "Mcnealy" on the sidelines saying come on down one more time, He is real his jabs are as good as Joe Frazier, Look look he is still standing and waving you on to come and take a shot at him. So, take it from me for some one who drove around from New york East Village to Bell Labs on a VolksBus with Peace sign and a motor vehicle tag "UNIX Live Free or Die", the 'COMET' has already left the Earth orbit, but you can still look out the WINDOWS only show in town worth spending YOUR money on is NT. Do I hear a cheer, Boo, no tomatoes, no eggs I've started the mandatory count, the Old champion is down One, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six, Seven, Eight. That is all. The winner by Knockout and the NEW Champion of the World (IT that is) NT, NT, NT. Let us hear Peter Frampton sing 'Can you hear'....'Can you feel' NT, NT, NT, NT..... Before I go, NT also means NIRVANA TECHNOLOGY. Thanks for listening, reading, cursing ... Cheers, Keky (not to be confused with Kinky!) 78. Srinivasu Battula January 6, 1999 srini@encommerce.com I am a software engineer working with Unix and NT systems for the last 5 years. As per my experience, I will definitely opt for Unix based systems to Windows NT, especially for machine-critical applications as Unix is much more reliable and stable. I work in a software Company here in California developing web-security management solutions and most of our customers here prefer Unix based systems. 77. Bharat Gera January 6, 1999 bharatg@wipsys.soft.net First of all it should be Linux vs Unix vs Windows or Linus vs ?? vs Bill Gates.. please check .. Got IT ? 76. Srini Battula January 6, 1999 Software Engineer enCommerce, Inc. Santa Clara, CA - 95054 http://www.encommerce.com/ 75. Jim Andrews January 6, 1999 jandrews1@hotmail.com On technical merit, NT stands up poorly to Linux/Unix. Reasons are listed out here: http://www.unix-vs-nt.org/ -Jim 74. Nishanth Balaji January 6, 1999 balaji@usc.edu Unix is the best. NT crashes like a bowling ball. 73. Rajesh January 6, 1999 rajeshmr@rocketmail.com I Prefer Windows NT 72. Sathesh Murthy January 6, 1999 msatheshk@yahoo.com Windows NT 71. Kumbhi January 6, 1999 kumhbi@yahoo.com The following URL sums up everything. http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,29416,00.html?st.ne.ni.rel 70. Mahesh January 6, 1999 decent@collegeclub.com Meena is not wrong in claiming that NT is the most used network server now a days. But, reality is that Microsoft can never beat OPEN products like LINUX, which came out of the hands of world's best software developers (though they didn't get paid for it). So, instead of worrying about the articles about a product, Microsoft should worry about improving it's own product that can compete with these open system products. Though I don't see this happening in future. These products will always be on top and users will slowly shift their bases to better (and cheap) products than using a monopoly product. 69. Mahesh January 6, 1999 If I were an enlightened optimist I would cry LINUX If I were an optimist I would pray for UNIX but alas, the realist weeps at the sight of WINDOWS 68. Gayatri January 6, 1999 gayi@hotmail.com Unix 67. Vijay January 6, 1999 sgi02@hotmail.com The recent groundswell in support for non-Microsoft solutions is the natural result of Microsoft's hegemonistic business practices. The penguin has already developed enough of a user base in the server segment to cause concern to MS, and the day is not too far off when he shall rule the desktop too. Linux is definitely the way to go - any reasonably competent IT manager realizes that. OpenSource rules ! Think about tomorrow. Only losers ask " Where Do You Want To Go Today ???" Unix is the only choice. 66. Ravinder Reddy January 6, 1999 vrreddy@hotmail.com Windows NT 65. Taranath Kantharajapur January 6, 1999 stara@netscape.com Unix 64. Satya January 6, 1999 gvsatya@yahoo.com Unix - Its better any day. 63. Arun January 6, 1999 arunx@earthlink.net If ISP's expect to grow, they need something scalable and that leaves NT out. 62. Vishal Mehrotra January 6, 1999 vishal.mehrotra@utoronto.ca Hi! I'm a 3rd year computer engineering student at University of Toronto and I just finished a work term with Myna communications(ISP). I think that Unix, though not user friendly is the best choice for an ISP. It is much more stable, gives you more room to do a lot more things than Windows NT could ever do. LINUX is a good option too, but then again it is basically UNIX we are talking about here. I think the ISP's would be much better off with UNIX as their first choice and LINUX as their second choice. I don't believe that Windows NT would ever come alose to UNIX or LINUX. A good question to ask is , "Why is HOTMAIL not running on Windows NT but on UNIX? It is Microsoft owned, isn't it?" 61. Prakash Choraria January 6, 1999 pc63@hotmail.com Windows NT is definitely my bet. Windows has the backing of Microsoft, which as a company, no matter how much we may attempt to devalue, has always provided good software. Linux and Unix, are extremely user-un-friendly, even in their best forms. Post Upload your opinion |
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